Commons:Deletion requests/File:'Black Lightning Strikes Twice', Galento versus Louis prefight cartoon by Jim Berryman, from the Evening Star, Washington, D. C., June, 28, 1939.png

File:'Black Lightning Strikes Twice', Galento versus Louis prefight cartoon by Jim Berryman, from the Evening Star, Washington, D. C., June, 28, 1939.png

As someone who uploads a ton of images from Chronicling America, I am extraordinarily uncomfortable with the blanket assertion that all images there are already public domain. This particular image was published in 1939, and is by a cartoonist who died in 1971. I'm aware that there was a period during which copyrights had to be actively renewed, but does that apply here? And how do we tell if copyright was renewed on this one? DS (talk) 16:29, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Similar issue here -File:Tony Galento's short-lived moment of glory. From the Waterbury Evening Democrat, June 29, 1939.png and here - File:Tony Galento 'training' in Orange, New Jersey, 1941. From the Sunday Star, Washington, D. C.png - and here - File:Joe Louis, Underwood & Underwood, active 1880 - c. 1950, from the National Portrait Gallery, Smithsonian Institution.tif.

(for that last one, does the NPG have the right to release the image CC-Zero?) DS (talk) 16:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

This is fair. I am happy to defer to your expertise in this matter. HenrikLarssonIsTheKIngOfKings (talk) 17:30, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Clarification: Your uncomfortableness may well be appropriate. I cannot claim to have been especially diligent here, so, please, proceed as you think best. In the future, I will refrain from uploading "Chronicling America" material published after 1928. Thank you. HenrikLarssonIsTheKIngOfKings (talk) 17:42, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

•  Keep @HenrikLarssonIsTheKIngOfKings and DragonflySixtyseven: USA copyright law doesn't use the post mortem auctoris rule. It is based solely on copyright registration and then renewal up until 1964. The LOC is very, very careful on checking for renewals, and as you may have noticed their newspaper editions online end in 1964, after which copyright was automatic until 1977, when it changed once again, and registration was required until 1989. This could have been handled by a question at the Village pump, rather than jumping right to a deletion nomination. I want HenrikLarssonIsTheKIngOfKings to keep adding more images. --RAN (talk) 22:13, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

  I guess that answers that. Thank you. DS (talk) 01:07, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

  Re your other comment, i.e., "You not knowing how United States copyright law works is not the same as 'undetermined copyright status'." Patently. Thank you. HenrikLarssonIsTheKIngOfKings (talk) 10:04, 11 October 2023 (UTC)